RollBots USA: 101 “Training Day”

By MCM

Posted September 19, 2009

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RollBots USA: 101 “Training Day”

This is mostly a repeat of a post I made in February, after Training Day aired in Canada.  I’m going to try and keep on top of things all over again, giving inside information about episodes of RollBots, so you can see the things that went into producing each story.

So, “Training Day”. Not surprisingly, this is the first story I came up with for the series. Structurally-speaking, the first draft of 101 (101=season 1, episode 01) was a lot longer than what you saw on air. There was an entire B plot with Lance getting badly injured and having to go to the Hub to get repaired, and the drama of that. It was turning into a strong Spin/Penny split and ended up way too long to produce, so we cut out the Lance side story and moved it into its own episode (now 105). So more on that later. But you can see the remnants of it, where Lance is falling and Spin catches him in mid-air.

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The other element that was edited out was an extended action sequence with Spin battling Botch, which I had had in my mind since before I even knew Botch’s name. That sequence has been moved into a much later episode, but I won’t say which one. It is probably my favourite battle sequence in the entire series.

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There are some subtle things in the episode you may have noticed. I’m a web developer, so there are a lot web terms in there, like a “301 Redirect” or the names of various trax systems throughout the city. Vertex’s hideout has a joke to it that you probably don’t get anymore.  The Zetag estate was supposed to be full of “broken windows”.  If you look hard enough, you’ll get it.

Oh, and for those who remember the old Mac OS X development layers, the top and bottom-most areas of Flip City are called “Quartz Sector” and “Boot Sector”.

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There is one glitch — to do with things underfoot — that doubles as a spoiler. I won’t say what the glitch is, or what the spoiler is.

The part where Vertex transforms from his rolling mode to his spider mode, when we saw it in leica (moving storyboards), was the first moment I really thought: “Yeah, this show is going to kick ass”. I thought that at various stages along the way, but it wasn’t until that shot that it really clicked for me.

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The speech that Vertex does to the henchbots is overly-long, and I apologize for that. We’d just settled on Vertex’s voice and his design was looking cool and I just kept re-writing that block so I could have a little more “evil villain” time. Luckily, Vertex doesn’t do that ever again.  (Fun note: Colin Murdock does the voice of both Vertex and Macro, of all people.  We did the voice casting blind, so I didn’t know until later.)

Interesting trivia: Spin was originally blue. He went through a lot of design variations to arrive at where he is. He had to lose his blue body because it reminded us too much of Sonic the Hedgehog. We also nixed some white racing stripes down the front of his face because they conflicted too much with his eyes when he animated. Oh, and Penny used to be pink, but we had to switch her for Toy Reasons (girls won’t shop in the boy toy aisle, and boys won’t buy pink toys).

To wrap up 101, a final note: when we started writing this episode, we were trying to decide whether we’d actively promote the idea that there was a continuing story to this series. Ending like we did with Pounder chewing out Spin, and Spin being defiant… that was a long and complicated discussion amongst the producers. In the end, I think it was a good choice… it warns the audience that we’re not just making a fluffy kids show here… there’s going to be some twists along the way.

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If there was anything in 101 that you wanted to ask about, feel free to do so in the comments. I can’t guarantee I’ll answer all questions, but I’ll do my best to shed light where it won’t conflict with the major plot points of season 1.

About MCM

MCM is the creator of the animated series RollBots. He also writes books, such as The Vector, The Pig and the Box, and Typhoon. When not doing such things, he is coding sites like this one. He is also insane.
  • http://brian23.com Brian

    Loved it, man – really did. Glad it's here finally, and I love that it's fun and kid-friendly with like an actual ongoing mythology also. You know I appreciate this combo of fun and depth.

  • http://www.twitter.com/mfeige mfeige

    Watched it, really enjoyed it. It was fun for sure. I'll try to watch it next week too.

  • http://twitter.com/piers_hollott piers_hollott

    Hey, this is fantastic! You know you are successful when grown adults are up at 8.00 in the morning enjoying your work! Could be Tivo, I suppose.

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      I wonder if our ratings will be skewed in favour of ages 18+, and if so, what 4Kids will think about it…

  • http://twitter.com/piers_hollott piers_hollott

    Hey, this is fantastic! You know you are successful when grown adults are up at 8.00 in the morning enjoying your work! Could be Tivo, I suppose.

  • http://www.sassie.net/ mjgolli

    I’m glad that you got Colin Murdock to do voice work. His range is unbelievable! Happy to see Sam Vincent and Scott McNeil VAing as well. I met Colin and Scott at FanExpo in Toronto this year. I don’t think you could find two nicer, down to earth people, IMHO.

    I certainly hope that you get a second season!

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      Colin is really brilliant, as is Scott… and really all the actors. I only met them once (sitting in on a recording session after a very stressful ferry ride to Vancouver) and was just blown away by how great they are. When you hear the raw recordings of each episode, all the times they’re told: “You’re falling about 100 feet, and you hit four things along the way, and the second thing is pretty big…” and they just do it as if it’s natural to them… really, really strange stuff.

      I want to do a second season, if only to sit in on more recordings :)

  • http://www.sassie.net/ mjgolli

    I'm glad that you got Colin Murdock to do voice work. His range is unbelievable! Happy to see Sam Vincent and Scott McNeil VAing as well. I met Colin and Scott at FanExpo in Toronto this year. I don't think you could find two nicer, down to earth people, IMHO.

    I certainly hope that you get a second season!

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Phew! The depth becomes more obvious later, as does the fun. It's really bizarre to see what I wrote all those years ago, and think: “Damn, I could have done that so much better. Maybe I should warm up the time machine after all…”

    But then I become distracted by mesmerizing things, and the initiative is lost…

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Ha! Don't do anything silly on my account. Even *I* can't make myself get up for it some days :)

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    I wonder if our ratings will be skewed in favour of ages 18+, and if so, what 4Kids will think about it…

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Colin is really brilliant, as is Scott… and really all the actors. I only met them once (sitting in on a recording session after a very stressful ferry ride to Vancouver) and was just blown away by how great they are. When you hear the raw recordings of each episode, all the times they're told: “You're falling about 100 feet, and you hit four things along the way, and the second thing is pretty big…” and they just do it as if it's natural to them… really, really strange stuff.

    I want to do a second season, if only to sit in on more recordings :)

  • http://www.sassie.net/ mjgolli

    I'm glad that you got Colin Murdock to do voice work. His range is unbelievable! Happy to see Sam Vincent and Scott McNeil VAing as well. I met Colin and Scott at FanExpo in Toronto this year. I don't think you could find two nicer, down to earth people, IMHO.

    I certainly hope that you get a second season!

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Phew! The depth becomes more obvious later, as does the fun. It's really bizarre to see what I wrote all those years ago, and think: “Damn, I could have done that so much better. Maybe I should warm up the time machine after all…”

    But then I become distracted by mesmerizing things, and the initiative is lost…

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Ha! Don't do anything silly on my account. Even *I* can't make myself get up for it some days :)

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    I wonder if our ratings will be skewed in favour of ages 18+, and if so, what 4Kids will think about it…

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Colin is really brilliant, as is Scott… and really all the actors. I only met them once (sitting in on a recording session after a very stressful ferry ride to Vancouver) and was just blown away by how great they are. When you hear the raw recordings of each episode, all the times they're told: “You're falling about 100 feet, and you hit four things along the way, and the second thing is pretty big…” and they just do it as if it's natural to them… really, really strange stuff.

    I want to do a second season, if only to sit in on more recordings :)

  • Sarai K.

    Hi.I’m Sarai Keegan,and I’m a huge fan of your show RollBots.I was
    just wondering two things.
    1:Is there going to be a manga version?
    2:Is there going to be a second season?I hope so.
    See,when I saw the end of the last episode,I didn’t really like it.I mean,
    the episode was AWESOME but the ending just wasn’t right.I think there
    should be an episode after that or something.’Cause I’d like to see what
    happens next.

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      Hi!

      Glad you like it! My answers are as follows:
      1: I will ask about a manga version. I’d love to do one, but I know the book rights are controlled by another company, and I’m not sure how they feel about it. I will see if I can get an answer in the next few weeks.
      2: The last details of season 2 are being worked out now, so I’m hoping to make an announcement soon. Fingers crossed!

      The last episode was definitely meant to be annoying :) YTV wasn’t happy that we were ending with a cliffhanger, but I’d had that moment in my head from the very start. Also, the first few episodes in season 2. I’m not sure how much of my vision is actually doable, given the money we’d have to spend to make it, but I’m going to try my best to blow your mind :)

      • Ashley

        Hello MCM, my name is Ashley, I am 18 years old, I love the show and I totally agree, you need to make a second season! P.S. I would love for you to shed some light on the connections between Ms. Appie, Pikea, Spin and Vertex/the spider bots! Captain Pounder and Vertex are they gone forever when they fell through the safety net? Who was the voice that Pounder talked to privately over is screen in his pod? I am totally stressed out here! But all in all the episodes are great and the story plot is so well thought out and intertwined in each scene of every episode, excellent job! Can’t wait for season 2!

        • http://1889.ca MCM

          I can’t answer all of your questions, but I will say you’ve noticed a lot of the key elements that drive season 2. The voice Pounder was talking to is a bot who will be more active as time goes on… they were conspiring to keep the city in check, but now that Pounder is… well… less available… that bot will have to step up and get things done. I can’t say who it is, but I think it will be great when the reveal is made.

          The intertwining in season 1 comes out in the next 26 episodes very strongly. There are some super-subtle things in there that will suddenly be important. You’ll just have to wait and see what they are :)

          Thanks for watching and the kind words!

          • Ashley

            Thank you so much for the reply. It is so nice to be able to talk to someone rather than just sending an email and never knowing if it reaches it’s destination or not. One more question. . .

            Will MCM put all the Rollbots episodes onto DVDs at some point? If so please add bonus features, I love ‘em! (Like, what was the inspiration for it and how you created/ designed the bots, the city and well everything!) By the way where is the MCM studio located? Cause I live in Canada, and would be really sad if I could no longer enjoy watching such an excellent show!

            Boterrific and Rolltastic!

          • http://1889.ca MCM

            Heyo! Sorry for the delay again. It’s what I do best, apparently.

            I should clarify: MCM is actually me, the creator of the show. Just a person with a very strange name :) The show is produced by Amberwood Entertainment out of Ottawa, and was animated by Elliott Animation out of Toronto. I know Elliott’s studio changed names recently, but I cannot for the life of me remember what it’s called now.

            There SHOULD be DVDs coming out soonish, because I know I worked on delivering DVD artwork in the last few months (big blur, but I remember doing it). So hopefully that’ll happen soon. I don’t know what’ll be ON the DVDs, but they should be on their way eventually.

            If you’ve got any more questions, feel free to ask! I may not always reply promptly, but I do reply eventually!

          • Ashley

            That makes me so happy, I don’t know what to do with myself! I am totally going to get every DVD, need the complete collection! LOL

            That really is neat, an all Canadian show. Thanks so much MCM. Have a great day.

          • Ashley

            Could you post here when the dvds will be out (the year/month etc.), and where they might be coming out, like future shop, rogers etc. Also when the second season will start, I don’t want to miss a single episode! Thanks MCM.

  • Sarai K.

    Hi.I'm Sarai Keegan,and I'm a huge fan of your show RollBots.I was
    just wondering two things.
    1:Is there going to be a manga version?
    2:Is there going to be a second season?I hope so.
    See,when I saw the end of the last episode,I didn't really like it.I mean,
    the episode was AWESOME but the ending just wasn't right.I think there
    should be an episode after that or something.'Cause I'd like to see what
    happens next.

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Hi!

    Glad you like it! My answers are as follows:
    1: I will ask about a manga version. I'd love to do one, but I know the book rights are controlled by another company, and I'm not sure how they feel about it. I will see if I can get an answer in the next few weeks.
    2: The last details of season 2 are being worked out now, so I'm hoping to make an announcement soon. Fingers crossed!

    The last episode was definitely meant to be annoying :) YTV wasn't happy that we were ending with a cliffhanger, but I'd had that moment in my head from the very start. Also, the first few episodes in season 2. I'm not sure how much of my vision is actually doable, given the money we'd have to spend to make it, but I'm going to try my best to blow your mind :)

    • Ashley

      Hello MCM, my name is Ashley, I am 18 years old, I love the show and I totally agree, you need to make a second season! P.S. I would love for you to shed some light on the connections between Ms. Appie, Pikea, Spin and Vertex/the spider bots! Captain Pounder and Vertex are they gone forever when they fell through the safety net? Who was the voice that Pounder talked to privately over is screen in his pod? I am totally stressed out here! But all in all the episodes are great and the story plot is so well thought out and intertwined in each scene of every episode, excellent job! Can’t wait for season 2!

      • http://1889.ca MCM

        I can’t answer all of your questions, but I will say you’ve noticed a lot of the key elements that drive season 2. The voice Pounder was talking to is a bot who will be more active as time goes on… they were conspiring to keep the city in check, but now that Pounder is… well… less available… that bot will have to step up and get things done. I can’t say who it is, but I think it will be great when the reveal is made.

        The intertwining in season 1 comes out in the next 26 episodes very strongly. There are some super-subtle things in there that will suddenly be important. You’ll just have to wait and see what they are :)

        Thanks for watching and the kind words!

        • Ashley

          Thank you so much for the reply. It is so nice to be able to talk to someone rather than just sending an email and never knowing if it reaches it’s destination or not. One more question. . .

          Will MCM put all the Rollbots episodes onto DVDs at some point? If so please add bonus features, I love ‘em! (Like, what was the inspiration for it and how you created/ designed the bots, the city and well everything!) By the way where is the MCM studio located? Cause I live in Canada, and would be really sad if I could no longer enjoy watching such an excellent show!

          Boterrific and Rolltastic!

          • http://1889.ca MCM

            Heyo! Sorry for the delay again. It’s what I do best, apparently.

            I should clarify: MCM is actually me, the creator of the show. Just a person with a very strange name :) The show is produced by Amberwood Entertainment out of Ottawa, and was animated by Elliott Animation out of Toronto. I know Elliott’s studio changed names recently, but I cannot for the life of me remember what it’s called now.

            There SHOULD be DVDs coming out soonish, because I know I worked on delivering DVD artwork in the last few months (big blur, but I remember doing it). So hopefully that’ll happen soon. I don’t know what’ll be ON the DVDs, but they should be on their way eventually.

            If you’ve got any more questions, feel free to ask! I may not always reply promptly, but I do reply eventually!

          • Ashley

            That makes me so happy, I don’t know what to do with myself! I am totally going to get every DVD, need the complete collection! LOL

            That really is neat, an all Canadian show. Thanks so much MCM. Have a great day.

          • Ashley

            Could you post here when the dvds will be out (the year/month etc.), and where they might be coming out, like future shop, rogers etc. Also when the second season will start, I don’t want to miss a single episode! Thanks MCM.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    Hey, I’m just a HUGE fan of your show love the work! I just had a few questions I’d like to ask that have been nagging me for a while.
    1. Will Spin gain any new powers in season 2? Or will we at least meet whoever Pounder was always talking to in season 1?
    2. I can’t help but notice a few pairing subtleties when watching the show. How Pounder and Cables are seemingly always fighting like an old married couple (will we see anything on that later on?), Spin and Penny in some subtle points of the show (like during episode124 at almost the end of the season when Spin catches Penny bridal style and then quickly puts her down), and Botch and Manx (how Botch seemed really worried as he yelled for Vett to put her down in episode 123). Was that intended or is it just a figment of my weird imagination?
    3. Would it be too much to ask to see a small spoiler of what happens in episode 1 of season 2?

    Just asking. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    Hey, I’m just a HUGE fan of your show love the work! I just had a few questions I’d like to ask that have been nagging me for a while.
    1. Will Spin gain any new powers in season 2? Or will we at least meet whoever Pounder was always talking to in season 1?
    2. I can’t help but notice a few pairing subtleties when watching the show. How Pounder and Cables are seemingly always fighting like an old married couple (will we see anything on that later on?), Spin and Penny in some subtle points of the show (like during episode124 at almost the end of the season when Spin catches Penny bridal style and then quickly puts her down), and Botch and Manx (how Botch seemed really worried as he yelled for Vett to put her down in episode 123). Was that intended or is it just a figment of my weird imagination?
    3. Would it be too much to ask to see a small spoiler of what happens in episode 1 of season 2?

    Just asking. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      Hi there! Thanks for the kind words! The show was hard work, but I’m glad it paid off.

      To answer your questions as best as I can:
      1) Spin will gain new powers, and they will be even cooler than before… but they come with a price. And yes, you will know who Pounder was talking to within the first three episodes (but: it’s someone you already know).

      2) The pairings are real (and I’m glad you saw them, because I thought they might be too subtle). The Botch/Manx one in particular gets tricky in season 2 when we find out exactly how Manx/Botch/Lance/Trajo/Pounder fit together. Plus, Spin has to figure out how much to tell Penny about his new “orders” from Pounder, and his decision there will change their relationship a lot.

      3) Episode 201… let’s see… Flip City reverts to its original battle-ready state, Penny gets — and then loses — control of the FCPD, and Spin gets his first taste of fighting spiderbot drones… A LOT of spiderbot drones.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

        Thanks for answering my questions no matter how busy you may be. There’s just one or two things I don’t understand. So from what I can tell, Pounder survives and Spin does get some new powers. I’m not just a pairings nut and that Botch/Manx and Penny/Spin do exist, though I still don’t get the thing between Pounder and Cables. Also, we’re going to be seeing a LOT more spiders than last season. Thanks for that, but, I don’t even *know* who Trajo is, who is this person.

        Quick off-topic question: Will we see any more backstory on Pikea in Season 2? I think I’ve got the gist of it. Pikea’s breed was created to be some sort of guardian to the Zushin, is that how it works?

        Anyways, you don’t have to answer my questions if you don’t want to, but I’d be super happy if you did. Thanks for answering my last ones though.

        • http://1889.ca MCM

          Hello! Sorry for missing your comment. Things are nutty round here :)

          Trajo is a secret for now. Mentioned in the last episodes of season 1, and will be key in the future.

          Pikea will get more backstory, but maybe not directly. You’ll have to wait and see how it all connects :)

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Hi there! Thanks for the kind words! The show was hard work, but I’m glad it paid off.

    To answer your questions as best as I can:
    1) Spin will gain new powers, and they will be even cooler than before… but they come with a price. And yes, you will know who Pounder was talking to within the first three episodes (but: it’s someone you already know).

    2) The pairings are real (and I’m glad you saw them, because I thought they might be too subtle). The Botch/Manx one in particular gets tricky in season 2 when we find out exactly how Manx/Botch/Lance/Trajo/Pounder fit together. Plus, Spin has to figure out how much to tell Penny about his new “orders” from Pounder, and his decision there will change their relationship a lot.

    3) Episode 201… let’s see… Flip City reverts to its original battle-ready state, Penny gets — and then loses — control of the FCPD, and Spin gets his first taste of fighting spiderbot drones… A LOT of spiderbot drones.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    Thanks for answering my questions no matter how busy you may be. There’s just one or two things I don’t understand. So from what I can tell, Pounder survives and Spin does get some new powers. I’m not just a pairings nut and that Botch/Manx and Penny/Spin do exist, though I still don’t get the thing between Pounder and Cables. Also, we’re going to be seeing a LOT more spiders than last season. Thanks for that, but, I don’t even *know* who Trajo is, who is this person.

    Quick off-topic question: Will we see any more backstory on Pikea in Season 2? I think I’ve got the gist of it. Pikea’s breed was created to be some sort of guardian to the Zushin, is that how it works?

    Anyways, you don’t have to answer my questions if you don’t want to, but I’d be super happy if you did. Thanks for answering my last ones though.

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      Hello! Sorry for missing your comment. Things are nutty round here :)

      Trajo is a secret for now. Mentioned in the last episodes of season 1, and will be key in the future.

      Pikea will get more backstory, but maybe not directly. You’ll have to wait and see how it all connects :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    You know I just noticed something while I was re-watching episode 101 today. That part where Manx and Botch are arguing inside Zetag, when Macro finally gets the money canister back to the hideout. I was watching that part, I actually rewound it and paused it where I thought it was, and right there, on Manx’s leg was the keizatsu symbol, all faded and scratched. Was that intentional or was that just another case of the animators making a symbol mistake like with the logo on the floor of the presinct?

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      La la la I’ll never tell I’ll never… oh, okay, twist my arm, I’ll tell:

      The logo is intentional. It actually took quite a lot of work to convince them to make it scratched out like that :) Manx is ex-Keizatsu, and was actually on her way to being very powerful in the FCPD before… well, before something happened. I can’t say what. But it involves Lance.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

        LANCE!? Okay, now I’m WAY past impatient. I NEED TO SEE SEASON 2, OR I’M GONNA EXPLODE WITH IMPATIENTNESS!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    You know I just noticed something while I was re-watching episode 101 today. That part where Manx and Botch are arguing inside Zetag, when Macro finally gets the money canister back to the hideout. I was watching that part, I actually rewound it and paused it where I thought it was, and right there, on Manx’s leg was the keizatsu symbol, all faded and scratched. Was that intentional or was that just another case of the animators making a symbol mistake like with the logo on the floor of the presinct?

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      La la la I’ll never tell I’ll never… oh, okay, twist my arm, I’ll tell:

      The logo is intentional. It actually took quite a lot of work to convince them to make it scratched out like that :) Manx is ex-Keizatsu, and was actually on her way to being very powerful in the FCPD before… well, before something happened. I can’t say what. But it involves Lance.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

        LANCE!? Okay, now I’m WAY past impatient. I NEED TO SEE SEASON 2, OR I’M GONNA EXPLODE WITH IMPATIENTNESS!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    Please, do you have ANY idea whatsoever about when season two will be on its’ way? I NEED MORE ROLLBOTS!

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      I can’t say anything for sure, but I have been informed I’ll have news before January 1. I know that’s not too precise (or soon) but it’s all I’ve got for now :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

        Thanks for the info anyways, I’m just an otaku with a lot of free time on her hands. A LOT of free time. But, I must say that you did a very good job on the show and I hope to see more of that diligence in season 2. Keep up the good work. Quick thing though. You mentioned earlier on that I wasn’t a nutjob on the Spin/Penny pairing, what kinds of things will we see on that in season 2? Just wondering for the sake of my ever-turning mind.

        Oh, BTW I had a question regarding symbols in the USA 102 recap post. Just wanted to see if I could get that answered if you ever have the time. Thanks you for answering my questions thus far! :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    Please, do you have ANY idea whatsoever about when season two will be on its’ way? I NEED MORE ROLLBOTS!

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      I can’t say anything for sure, but I have been informed I’ll have news before January 1. I know that’s not too precise (or soon) but it’s all I’ve got for now :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

        Thanks for the info anyways, I’m just an otaku with a lot of free time on her hands. A LOT of free time. But, I must say that you did a very good job on the show and I hope to see more of that diligence in season 2. Keep up the good work. Quick thing though. You mentioned earlier on that I wasn’t a nutjob on the Spin/Penny pairing, what kinds of things will we see on that in season 2? Just wondering for the sake of my ever-turning mind.

        Oh, BTW I had a question regarding symbols in the USA 102 recap post. Just wanted to see if I could get that answered if you ever have the time. Thanks you for answering my questions thus far! :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    Woah! Major brain burst! Okay, so I’m just sitting here, listening to some Rollbots re-runs from the eps. I have on my computer (still can’t get enough), when I have a thought that made my head litterally snap up. I was sitting with my head against the wall and my head snapped up away from the wall. You know, in all of the episodes, every single one, no one EVER mentions the zeishi.
    I mean, they do acknowledge that there are 11 *cough* twelve *cough cough* tribes in the city, but they never mention the tribe by itself. I mena, I’ve read the database( well as much as I can considering I can’t get a YTV account since I’m an american) so I know that the zeishi are hermits and keep to themselves, but it bugs me. What do they do, what do they look like, why has no one ever mentioned them?! It’s the things that aren’t spoken that get my thoughts turning. So, what about the zeishi?

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      Ha! Observant, you are :D

      Here’s the thing about the tribes in Flip City: everyone knows there are 11, and every bot tot is made to memorize the names of the 11 tribes, but really, nobody has actually SEEN a zeishi in… well, forever. The idea that they’re hermits has been passed down for generations, but the origin of the stereotype is so far in the past that you just don’t know where it came from. Is it the truth, or something else? Are they really hermits, or did they just disappear? And if they did, did they do it for a reason…?

      I will say this: the zeishi are NOT the same as zuushin.

      And this: not every bot we’ve met belongs to the tribe they seem to.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

        AH, the suspense gimmic, you use that a lot don’t you? Nice Yoda reference at the beginning by the way. So, wait, some of the rollbots are not from the tribes we think they are, another reason to be impatient. Hey, two more quick things if you have time.
        1: I saw on the limited FCPD Database that I’m allowed to see that Roboto has won all of those botball awards for consecutive points in a game and in a season, yadda, yadda, yadda. But, he lost one game to an up and coming Haibu Hammers player who goes by the name of MACRO!? Explain!
        2: It may be a bit of a blast to the past for you but, what would have happened had you been allowed to air the episode ‘Bad Penny’? I know you posted that it would have layed down some major groundwork for season 2, but what exactly would be happening in the episode? I can tell it would have entailed something about Penny, that’s pretty obvious, but what did you mean, ‘Bad’ Penny? Could you please tell?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

    Woah! Major brain burst! Okay, so I’m just sitting here, listening to some Rollbots re-runs from the eps. I have on my computer (still can’t get enough), when I have a thought that made my head litterally snap up. I was sitting with my head against the wall and my head snapped up away from the wall. You know, in all of the episodes, every single one, no one EVER mentions the zeishi.
    I mean, they do acknowledge that there are 11 *cough* twelve *cough cough* tribes in the city, but they never mention the tribe by itself. I mena, I’ve read the database( well as much as I can considering I can’t get a YTV account since I’m an american) so I know that the zeishi are hermits and keep to themselves, but it bugs me. What do they do, what do they look like, why has no one ever mentioned them?! It’s the things that aren’t spoken that get my thoughts turning. So, what about the zeishi?

    • http://1889.ca MCM

      Ha! Observant, you are :D

      Here’s the thing about the tribes in Flip City: everyone knows there are 11, and every bot tot is made to memorize the names of the 11 tribes, but really, nobody has actually SEEN a zeishi in… well, forever. The idea that they’re hermits has been passed down for generations, but the origin of the stereotype is so far in the past that you just don’t know where it came from. Is it the truth, or something else? Are they really hermits, or did they just disappear? And if they did, did they do it for a reason…?

      I will say this: the zeishi are NOT the same as zuushin.

      And this: not every bot we’ve met belongs to the tribe they seem to.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

        AH, the suspense gimmic, you use that a lot don’t you? Nice Yoda reference at the beginning by the way. So, wait, some of the rollbots are not from the tribes we think they are, another reason to be impatient. Hey, two more quick things if you have time.1: I saw on the limited FCPD Database that I’m allowed to see that Roboto has won all of those botball awards for consecutive points in a game and in a season, yadda, yadda, yadda. But, he lost one game to an up and coming Haibu Hammers player who goes by the name of MACRO!? Please explain!2: It may be a bit of a blast to the past for you but, what would have happened had you been allowed to air the episode ‘Bad Penny’? I know you posted that it would have layed down some major groundwork for season 2, but what exactly would be happening in the episode? I can tell it would have entailed something about Penny, that’s pretty obvious, but what did you mean, ‘Bad’ Penny? Could you please tell?

  • Ashley

    Hello MCM! It is the 21 of February now, any news on when the new season will start? Have you heard anything about the DVDs yet? I keep watching all the episodes in order over and over again trying to gather more insight but I think I have totally dried it out! Don’t think I’ve missed anything! Thanks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

      And I thought I was a freak for Rollbots.

      • Ashley

        You sound like you really can’t wait to see season 2 too! I have all the episodes saved on my PVR! I am stumped I think that the bot Pounder talks to on his com is Mrs. Appie! You? Like Spin says to her in teacher’s pet, near the end “You should have seen your Pikea protect me from Vertex, almost like he was bred for it!” and she replies “Oh that’s silly, my Pikea would never hurt anyone, and besides everyone knows that there is no such thing as spider bots!” Honestly how did she know that Vertex was a spider bot, Spin never said he was and she so knows something about all the secrets! Who do you think that bot is? It’s killing me, and what about Vett, did he die or did he just get thrown off of the hub? Waiting for the answers is stressful to say the least! lol

        • http://1889.ca MCM

          Drop me a line at mcm@1889.ca. I can’t post in public on this subject right now :)

      • http://1889.ca MCM

        Drop me a line at mcm@1889.ca. I can’t post in public on this subject right now.

  • Ashley

    Hello MCM! It is the 21 of February now, any news on when the new season will start? Have you heard anything about the DVDs yet? I keep watching all the episodes in order over and over again trying to gather more insight but I think I have totally dried it out! Don’t think I’ve missed anything! Thanks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Espinoza/100000468550511 Sabrina Espinoza

      And I thought I was a freak for Rollbots.

      • Ashley

        You sound like you really can’t wait to see season 2 too! I have all the episodes saved on my PVR! I am stumped I think that the bot Pounder talks to on his com is Mrs. Appie! You? Like Spin says to her in teacher’s pet, near the end “You should have seen your Pikea protect me from Vertex, almost like he was bred for it!” and she replies “Oh that’s silly, my Pikea would never hurt anyone, and besides everyone knows that there is no such thing as spider bots!” Honestly how did she know that Vertex was a spider bot, Spin never said he was and she so knows something about all the secrets! Who do you think that bot is? It’s killing me, and what about Vett, did he die or did he just get thrown off of the hub? Waiting for the answers is stressful to say the least! lol

        • http://1889.ca MCM

          Drop me a line at mcm@1889.ca. I can’t post in public on this subject right now :)

      • http://1889.ca MCM

        Drop me a line at mcm@1889.ca. I can’t post in public on this subject right now.

  • http://brian23.com Brian

    Loved it, man – really did. Glad it’s here finally, and I love that it’s fun and kid-friendly with like an actual ongoing mythology also. You know I appreciate this combo of fun and depth.

  • http://www.twitter.com/mfeige mfeige

    Watched it, really enjoyed it. It was fun for sure. I’ll try to watch it next week too.

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Phew! The depth becomes more obvious later, as does the fun. It’s really bizarre to see what I wrote all those years ago, and think: “Damn, I could have done that so much better. Maybe I should warm up the time machine after all…”

    But then I become distracted by mesmerizing things, and the initiative is lost…

  • http://1889.ca MCM

    Ha! Don’t do anything silly on my account. Even *I* can’t make myself get up for it some days :)

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